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JAPSoccer13
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 |  Subject: searching for a former clarity  Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:53 am | |
| so i pretty much get the meaning of the song, but was it written about someone...
i just was curious if the song was for someone or was just written.
ive never really heard anything about this song.
No the doctors didn't tell you,
that you were dying.
They just collected their money,
And sent you on your way.
But you knew all along,
went on pretending nothing was wrong,
you said I will keep my focus, till the end.
And in the journal you kept,
by the side of your bed.
You wrote nightly in aspiration,
of developing as an author.
Confessing childhood secrets,
of dressing up in women's clothes,
Compulsions you never knew the reasons to,
Well everyone, you ever meet or love,
be just relationship based on a false presumption,
despite everyone, you ever meet or love,
in the end, will you be all alone?
As the disease spreads slowly through your body,
pumped by your heart to the tips of your arms and your legs,
your greatest fear was that your mind wouldn't last,
your coherency and alertness would be the first things to fade,
as your hair thinned, as the weight fell off, as your teeth blackened,
as the lesions spotted your skin,
as you fell to your knees in the center of the stage,
as you offered witness to mortality in exchange for the ticket price,
as the lights blended into the continuing noise,
as all hope was finally lost.
Adrenaline carried one last thought to fruition.
Let this be the end.
Let this be the last song.
Let this be the end.
Let all be forgiven.
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|  | | e6c
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:16 am | |
| No the doctors didn't tell you,
that you were dying.
They just collected their money,
And sent you on your way.
But you knew all along,
went on pretending nothing was wrong,
you said I will keep my focus, till the end.
And in the journal you kept,
by the side of your bed.
You wrote nightly in aspiration,
of developing as an author.
Confessing childhood secrets,
of dressing up in women's clothes,
Compulsions you never knew the reasons to,
Well everyone, you ever meet or love,
be just relationship based on a false presumption,
despite everyone, you ever meet or love,
in the end, will you be all alone?
As the disease spreads slowly through your body,
pumped by your heart to the tips of your arms and your legs,
your greatest fear was that your mind wouldn't last,
your coherency and alertness would be the first things to fade,
as your hair thinned, as the weight fell off, as your teeth blackened,
as the lesions spotted your skin,
as you fell to your knees in the center of the stage,
as you offered witness to mortality in exchange for the ticket price,
as the lights blended into the continuing noise,
as all hope was finally lost.
Adrenaline carried one last thought to fruition.
Let this be the end.
Let this be the last song.
Let this be the end.
Let all be forgiven. |
| | | | e6c
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:18 am | |
| | This is one of the two songs where Tom references to wishing he was a woman |
| | | | e6c
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:20 am | |
| | I have no facts to back this up, but I think it might be about Freddy Mercury |
| | | | JAPSoccer13
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:36 am | |
| who is freddy?
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| | | | lex
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:53 am | |
| Singer in Queen, now deceased.
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so whats the use of going outside
it's so depressing when people die in real life |
| | | | arollo
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:58 am | |
| | JAPSoccer13 wrote: | | who is freddy? |
You can't possibly be that young. I thought everyone knew Freddy Mercury.
As to the song being about Mr. Mercury, it actually could be. Maybe it's a statement about all entertainers, and how they are sort of closeted (literally or figuratively) in their real lives, as everyone who meets them thinks the character is the individual.
Of course, all of this just ties up the concept of the album, and brings it to the logical conclusion where the singer dies on stage. It's very Ziggy Stardust. In fact, Ziggy Stardust was actually about the exact same thing. The song, I mean, not the album. The album was about the last rock band in the apocalypse. But I digress....
Maybe it's about how the performer becomes what he pretends to be in the end, and the individual dies on stage, and becomes a character. Maybe Tom Gabel is afraid his personality will be sucked up into Against Me!, and he'll live his life as whatever he is on tape?
Did Freddy Mercury ever express any sentiments along those lines? I suppose as a closeted gay man his life was already sort of a sham to begin with. But did he ever talk about being a rock star along the same lines that someone might talk about being found out to be queer? I honestly don't know much about the man. I've never really cared to dig into someone's personal life, as the music was all I ever cared about.
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| | | | e6c
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:33 am | |
| No the doctors didn't tell you,
that you were dying.
They just collected their money,
And sent you on your way.
But you knew all along,
went on pretending nothing was wrong,
you said I will keep my focus, till the end.
This opening verse is a great reference to Freddie Mercury's battle with AIDS. Freddie did not admit to the public that he was sick for quite awhile and he did not announce that he had AIDS until the day before he died, despite having known that he had AIDS for 4 years!
And in the journal you kept,
by the side of your bed.
You wrote nightly in aspiration,
of developing as an author.
Confessing childhood secrets,
of dressing up in women's clothes,
Compulsions you never knew the reasons to,
Freddie was one of the first openly gay celebrities, and he was known for his outlandish outfits
Well everyone, you ever meet or love,
be just relationship based on a false presumption,
despite everyone, you ever meet or love,
in the end, will you be all alone?
I think this refers to the problem of making friends when you are famous
As the disease spreads slowly through your body,
pumped by your heart to the tips of your arms and your legs,
your greatest fear was that your mind wouldn't last,
your coherency and alertness would be the first things to fade,
as your hair thinned, as the weight fell off, as your teeth blackened,
as the lesions spotted your skin,
as you fell to your knees in the center of the stage,
as you offered witness to mortality in exchange for the ticket price,
as the lights blended into the continuing noise,
as all hope was finally lost.
Adrenaline carried one last thought to fruition.
Let this be the end.
Let this be the last song.
Let this be the end.
Let all be forgiven.
I think this is all just Freddie dying from Aids, just a beautiful description of death |
| | | | e6c
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:39 am | |
| I forgot that this song contains one of my favorite lines:
You wrote nightly in aspiration,
of developing as an author.
if you take this song to be about dying from a disease, then you can use two different defenitions of aspiration...
One you could say that you are writing about your goals
Two you could say that you wrote as you were sufficating |
| | | | JAPSoccer13
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:00 am | |
| yea i never really liked queen and neither did my mother, which is prolly why i never really listned to them or knew who freddy was.
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| | | | lucky_leprechaun
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:25 pm | |
| Actually I think its about someone close to him having cancer.
Because on Searching the opening song 'Miami' talks about someone having cancer.
Plus, when I listen to Searching for a former clarity, I think of my Grandfathers battle with cancer that ended his life.
So I don't think its about Freddie Mercury.
I think its about cancer, and how it affects everyone close to that one person. |
| | | | JakobDoetman
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:53 pm | |
| | lucky_leprechaun wrote: | Actually I think its about someone close to him having cancer.
Because on Searching the opening song 'Miami' talks about someone having cancer.
Plus, when I listen to Searching for a former clarity, I think of my Grandfathers battle with cancer that ended his life.
So I don't think its about Freddie Mercury.
I think its about cancer, and how it affects everyone close to that one person. |
I have to disagree, the way the lyrics fit Freddie Mercury's story like a glove.
Think about it.....
"as you fell to your knees in the center of the stage,
as you offered witness to mortality in exchange for the ticket price,
as the lights blended into the continuing noise,
as all hope was finally lost.
Adrenaline carried one last thought to fruition.
Let this be the end."
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| brayhold wrote: | lol, his nipples are super hard.
must be a hot chick in the audience... |
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| | | | lucky_leprechaun
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:58 pm | |
| Yea, you do have a point.
Good call. |
| | | | bmc5703
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:45 pm | |
| | e6c wrote: | I forgot that this song contains one of my favorite lines:
You wrote nightly in aspiration,
of developing as an author.
if you take this song to be about dying from a disease, then you can use two different defenitions of aspiration...
One you could say that you are writing about your goals
Two you could say that you wrote as you were sufficating |
... doesn't it just mean that the person continues to write in the hopes that they would become better at it? |
| | | | lucky_leprechaun
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| | Subject: Re: searching for a former clarity Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:40 am | |
| | bmc5703 wrote: | | e6c wrote: | I forgot that this song contains one of my favorite lines:
You wrote nightly in aspiration,
of developing as an author.
if you take this song to be about dying from a disease, then you can use two different defenitions of aspiration...
One you could say that you are writing about your goals
Two you could say that you wrote as you were sufficating |
... doesn't it just mean that the person continues to write in the hopes that they would become better at it? |
Or a third way, the person who is dying from which ever disease you choose to have this song represent, is writing about their pain and agony that they do not want to talk about to their loved ones.
maybe the person always wanted to be an author and just never made it? |
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