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Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?

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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:50 am

i personally think that this forum needs a moderator, way too off topic...


but with pretty girls i think its about his x-wife. maybe he caught something one the road, being irresponsible. therefore when he wanted to see his wife, he was nervous because if there was chemistry he would have to explain why it couldnt happen in order not to give it to her.

then at the end "drunk mouth ruined it again, sometimes i say the dumbest things. oh but baby its not you specifically it could be anybody, ive gone and built this up in my head. now its allready over, its already over. its already over before it started."


i think maybe he was calling his wife and thinking all of this stuff, but he ruins it saying something dumb, and never ended up seeing her.
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:58 am

But it's fun to be off topic!

Does anyone have any links or specific sources on some of the background info on the SFAFC album? I first heard that Tom was getting divorced from the MAGNET article. Are there any sort of in depth discussions about why that was such a dark album?
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:54 pm

mattharris wrote:
i personally think that this forum needs a moderator, way too off topic...


but with pretty girls i think its about his x-wife. maybe he caught something one the road, being irresponsible. therefore when he wanted to see his wife, he was nervous because if there was chemistry he would have to explain why it couldnt happen in order not to give it to her.

then at the end "drunk mouth ruined it again, sometimes i say the dumbest things. oh but baby its not you specifically it could be anybody, ive gone and built this up in my head. now its allready over, its already over. its already over before it started."


i think maybe he was calling his wife and thinking all of this stuff, but he ruins it saying something dumb, and never ended up seeing her.


agreed, definitely strayed away from the original topic. as i did say earlier about how the whole album is connected with this meaphor of an std (representing the fame and major label signing that may be ensuing).

I think it's about him being nervous that he has a disease (like you said), but also that he changed while he was on the road on tour, away from her so long has complicated things too.





ALSO, i think all song meaning threads should atleast have someone post the lyrics ----

Quote:
What are you gonna say when she picks up the phone?
Should you leave a message if she's not at home?
I wanted to know if you'd like to see a movie or get a drink.
It would be cool just to be in your company.
But if she says yes know what intentions might be.
If one thing leads to another and there's some chemistry.
You cannot lie, you have to tell the truth.
You have to explain why this could never be, because

There are things that cannot be undone.
There are mistakes that will never be forgiven.
Sometimes at night, I pray to wake a different person in a different place.

Maybe we could just be friends.
I'm being a bit presumptuous.
The stomach churns, the mind starts to race.
You nervously start to exaggerate.
I just want to be young, I want to live.
I want to be healthy,
I don't want this problem.
You wouldn't think something like (sexual) irresponsibility,
would complicate something like asking for some company.

But there are things you must accept as said and done.
There are truths you must learn to confront.
You can pray all night and day.
You'll always wake the same person in the same place.

Drunk mouth ruined it again.
Sometimes I say the dumbest things.
Baby it's not you specifically it could be anybody.
I gone and built this up in my head and now it's already over,
It's already over, it's already over before it started.

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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:03 pm

The last two lines are my favorite.
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:45 am

Yeah, I'm really late on this, haha, but did anyone find that article about the meaning behind SFAFC? Like it being a narrative or not and if it was, a narrative about drugs, STDs, or music politics?
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:15 am

Umm, I once read an interview with Tom saying 'How low" was a polictical song, not a personal song, which would be contrary to what other people have said about it on this topic. BUT, they have also said they read about it in an interview saying the opposite of what I'm saying. I am 99% sure, but not being able to prodouce the article right now, I have no leg to stand on.
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:33 pm

I've always thought of this song, behind all the detailed bologna, was just about the difficulties of just starting and maintaining a relationship. Like, he tried to get with a chick, but fucked it up before he got anywhere with it because he thought way too much about it inside of his head.

But then again i'm the type of person who doesn't analyze songs, just let them take me away......so what do i know.
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:27 pm

Someone should just ask Tom about this. Sadly I'm not going to have the opportunity for a long while.
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PostSubject: Re: Pretty Girls, or, It Kind Of Sounds Like This Song Is About Herpes?   Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:34 pm

My friend Sean would always swear up and down that this song was about STDs. I never knew others though the same as him.
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