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PostSubject: Cliche Guevara   Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:27 pm

What is this tune really about?
i love it so much.
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:09 pm

I think it's a song about conformity and non-conformity. If you read the lyrics you can get a sense of it, plus the title, 'Cliche Guevara', people are wearing Che Guevara shirts these days not even knowing who he was or what his ideals were. That's how I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:21 pm

Wait... Che Guevara, the clothing designer who slaps his own face on shirts?

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:24 am

AdamLikesMusic wrote:
Wait... Che Guevara, the clothing designer who slaps his own face on shirts?


yes, that's the one... apparently he has a big rivalry with Andre The Giant!
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:30 am

hahaha

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:06 am

Please God, let AdamLikesMusic be sarcastic. Please.

If you aren't, please read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

In short: Che Guevara was a doctor who turned into a communist revolutinary/terrorist who killed a lot of people in his lifetime. The fact that people go into shopping malls to buy his portrait is so offencive on so many levels.

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:20 am

Are we talking like general mainstream wearing these shirts? Or just the mall punk crowd?
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:23 am

why was he a terrorist (only in Cuba). Everywhere else he is fucking loved and without him South America and a lot of poor people down there would be so much more worse off... Go watch Motorcycle Dairies, and dont only take a American view of what he was. He was a good man. Ya he did kill people, but he did a lot more good then harm, but you will never hear about it in America.

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:43 am

It's funny how people like to pick their battles. Lots of kids would argue that Che did "more good than harm" while admitting he was a violent war mongerer... but when the US government invades a country like Afghanistan and does more good than harm, it's counted as an example of all that is wrong and unholy.
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:44 am

thats cuz the government suxx
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:01 am

first off im not defending the killing Che did. Im just saying he did more good then bad, but you will never hear about it in america because of the Cuban Exile Group which has millions of dollars to spend to make Castro and everything Cuba does look like shit. Im sorry but spend that fucking money on opening trade with the country and raising the economic standards of your "mother" country, instead of just coming here and influcencing foiegn policy.

And Afghanistan should have never been invaded. Drop off troops find Bin Laden, get the fuck out... IMO thats what should have happen. We have another endless war though...war on drugs and where does most of the herion come out of Afghanistan. Big Profits in bringing this scourge to the masses....just look at harlem.

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:00 pm

Due to infrastructure improvements, the building of new facilities (schools, hospitals), and the installation of a constitutional government plus tens of billions of dollars in economic stimuli, the average lifespan in Afghanistan will increase since the US invasion. In other words, more people will survive due to the war than would have survived before the war. Ergo, more good than bad was done. Why then was it a bad decision while Che's was good?

I don't agree with people who support convenient idols who meet arbitrary standards.
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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:21 pm

alright but does the US know the best for the whole world. NO. Democracy will never work in the Middle East. Pushing it upon a country and its people is wrong. If they want it let them fight for it. And ill give you that the US going there has improved some things, but why the fuck did we even enter the war, not because Afghanstand attacked us but because they protected there sovergnity as a nation and didnt capture a person who had done nothing wrong in there country.

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:31 pm

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alright but does the US know the best for the whole world. NO. Democracy will never work in the Middle East. Pushing it upon a country and its people is wrong. If they want it let them fight for it. And ill give you that the US going there has improved some things, but why the fuck did we even enter the war, not because Afghanstand attacked us but because they protected there sovergnity as a nation and didnt capture a person who had done nothing wrong in there country.


Basically it all comes down to if you believe in what the other person/people is doing and such you will see it as good or bad, I try and see the good in everyone even if they have done bad shit. Ya the US is a warmongering country but its still done good.

Che killed people but does that mean he had to be murded, and be written off as a communist/terrorist. He went and lived with sick people when no one else would care for them. The government put them in a camp in the middle of the amazon and the doctors that where suppose to treat the sick people didnt even want to help and what Che do he fucking went over there lived with the people, gave the people happyness, when no one else would.

In the end people do good and bad, its up to you how you want to remember those people.

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PostSubject: Re: Cliche Guevara   Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:46 pm

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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